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World Exclusive: Xbox One (Durango) unveiled

21 Jan 2013
Maynard
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Durango, Microsoft, next-gen, specs, World exclusive

As we promised during the weekend in the next weeks we will unveil Durango and Orbis. All the technical info you want to know about the next generation machines from Sony and Microsoft.

The first one is Durango. In this article we present the system overview with the general components and some technical details about them.

How are Durango components connected?

Here you can see the Durango system block diagram:

durango arq World Exclusive: Xbox One (Durango) unveiled

 

Let’s check what’s inside the box:

CPU:

- x64 Architecture

- 8 CPU cores running at 1.6 gigahertz (GHz)

- each CPU thread has its own 32 KB L1 instruction cache and 32 KB L1 data cache

- each module of four CPU cores has a 2 MB L2 cache resulting in a total of 4 MB of L2 cache

- each core has one fully independent hardware thread with no shared execution resources

- each hardware thread can issue two instructions per clock

GPU:

- custom D3D11.1 class 800-MHz graphics processor

- 12 shader cores providing a total of 768 threads

- each thread can perform one scalar multiplication and addition operation (MADD) per clock cycle

- at peak performance, the GPU can effectively issue 1.2 trillion floating-point operations per second

High-fidelity Natural User Interface (NUI) sensor is always present

Storage and Memory:

- 8 gigabyte (GB) of RAM DDR3 (68 GB/s)

- 32 MB of fast embedded SRAM (ESRAM) (102 GB/s)

- from the GPU’s perspective the bandwidths of system memory and ESRAM are parallel providing combined peak bandwidth of 170 GB/sec.

- Hard drive is always present

- 50 GB 6x Blu-ray Disc drive

Networking:

- Gigabit Ethernet

- Wi-Fi and Wi-Fi Direct

Hardware Accelerators:

- Move engines

- Image, video, and audio codecs

- Kinect multichannel echo cancellation (MEC) hardware

- Cryptography engines for encryption and decryption, and hashing

 

We will give more detailed information about each component in future articles.

Next… Orbis.

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  • Ahmed360

    Cool, PS4 please (^__^)

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  • http://www.digitalwhip.com Mr. S

    Is this real? That would be nuts……

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  • unknown

    So, Microsoft just said bye bye to UE4 and next generation graphics? This specs give us something like 1.5 WiiU.

    • http://www.showtimeforfree.com miDnIghtEr20C

      You’re fucking nuts!

    • Wyatt

      You’re wrong. Amusing, but wrong.

      Performance per clock will be a lot better with bdver than with ppc; raw clocks per core should be roughly double; usable memory is at least fourfold; the GPU looks like it’ll be of the Southern Islands vintage rather than the R700-class. It’s not a monster if you’ve got a new PC, but it’s a major leap for a console. On the whole? Not an order-of-magnitude jump, but very substantial. And MS has good toolchain support, so it should start out “good” and improve from there.

      Now, if only it had any games…

      • unknown

        You didn’t have to take my words literally, I mean, wiiU it’s just a 360 with a tablet-controller and this specs are more than that, obviously, but my point is that in any case THIS doesn’t allow a properly leap. It’s really far from the x10 leap that epic, id and other third parties were talking about, as you may know. 1,2 tflops GPU it’s just crap, and IDEM with the jaguar CPU.

        • Wolfos

          Wii U only supports shader model 4 (DirectX10 PC level), this will definitely support shader model 5, which has so many great features that it’ll be revolutionary when developers finally actually get to use it.

        • Peter

          Te wiiu is everything more than all current consoles, except the gfx power.

          The controller is revolutionary. Don’t say its just a controller with a screen. It does allot more. Test it first before judging it.

          Best idea after n64 controller.

    • mcmoob

      It would be like 5 times faster than Xbox 360. 1.2 teraflop GPU. Summats like a Radeon 7770. Enuff to spank arse Wii U, Ps3 and 360 for shure.

  • Joe

    I hope there’s a version without bluray. And day and date releases.

    • Xavier

      why would you want a version w/o BR it would be pointless what else would they use

      • STFO-GTFO

        Dude. Bluray isnt all that anymore. DigiDownloads and Streaming have taken over. Look at the sales charts. People are buying movies thru iTunes, Cable On-Demand, Amazon On Demand, Xbox Live, and various other online services. Sure some people still buy blurays, but they are the minority now, and good percentage of that minority wont be able to afford the 720 until its sold for under 199$(which I wager wont be for atleast 4 years).

        • IwataPutYouRight

          It is funny that you mention people want a cheaper console, which a lack of Blu-Ray would mean, but yet you also say the reason for not including Blu-Ray would be more people are downloading games.

          Games in the Marketplace and PS Store are full recommended retail price.

          You can get games way cheaper in shops.

          You’d likely save more money with the more expensive console with Blu-Ray and buying games from shops than one without Blu-Ray and downloading through the console.

          Also, just because where you live has 20mbit+ internet to be able to download a full game in a reasonable amount of time, doesn’t mean elsewhere does.

          Blu-Ray is REQUIRED.

          • VH

            Amen.

          • Anonymous

            I agree that Blu-ray is the right choice but not because of money. It would still be more expensive to buy discs than DLC. The DLC now is the same because they are still making discs for shops. If DLC was cheaper, everyone would just get DLC instead of discs. Look at steam for example. The prices on steam are way more dynamic than for in-store games because there’s no material overhead for them.

            The Blu-Ray drive is a good choice though because, at this point in time, it would be a huge deal to a lot of gamers to download an entire game from the marketplace. Buying a disc makes the process time from purchase to playing a lot shorter and less of a hassle.

            I can’t wait till we’re all on fiber and get big gigabit speeds to utilize a pure DLC console! :)

          • Killbot

            Why not flash media? Smaller than a blu ray disc, less expensive, less moving parts, less overheating, no scratched discs.

            I have a 32gb usb drive that’s smaller than my thumbnail.

          • Jay

            You may WANT Blu Ray, that doesn’t mean you’ll get it.
            You’re asking Microsoft to support something owned by their direct
            competitor Sony, something that would make Sony money on every
            single disc used. I don’t expect to see Blu Ray support at all.
            Particularly when they want you buying your movies from their
            store, which will presumably integrate with PC too based on Win8
            design, meaning you’d be able to watch those movies on all Win8 and
            future Windows based devices. The question they’ll be asking
            themselves is “will BluRay benefit us in any way?”. The answer to
            that is no. Anyone interested in it has a player anyway by now,
            it’s simply unnecessary, costly and a great benefit to their
            competitor while potentially hurting their online store. Don’t
            expect it.

        • 1337GameDev

          Blu-Ray is not only used for movies. Yes, internet streaming is more popular than buying discs, but this drive is for gamees. And other consoles and pc hardware use blu-ray. Blu-ray drives are actually pretty cheap now. People still want some physical copies, and this satisies the videophiles. The blu-ray is for games to be as big as 50gb. I would not want to download games of 50gb or more from the marketplace, let alone have to dedicate that much space on my hard drive. Blu-ray is the correct way to go for microsoft. It really is. If you don’t like it, then don’t buy it. All new hardware also sells for inflated price on release times. Always. Same with computers. They go down in price around half a year to a year. I really hope the rumors of microsoft putting this console’s price point around $400. That would be perfect.

          • http://twitter.com/therealharmyb harmy

            I totally agree, Blu-ray is also holding a whopping 128 GB!

        • HGJ

          I still want my physical copies of first-tier games. Seeing how both MS and Sony both have in the past removed digital content and made it unrecoverable if lost locally, if I’m spending $60, I want a physical copy.

        • http://twitter.com/therealharmyb harmy

          Blu-ray isn’t used just for movies. The PlayStation 3 uses Blu-ray for their games, holding up to 128 GB, which is nearly 8 times more than that of DVD, which explains why when BIG games, such as LA Noire, are released, the Xbox version usually has 1-3 disks. MS would be making a big mistake not going with Blu-ray, and quite frankly, I would be very disappointed if they didn’t.

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  • SilverlightWPF

    The CPU 8 Core with L1/L2 cache sounds exactly like 2 x VTE multi processors. And the move engine sounds like Oban …

    That’s a brilliant design that MisterXMedia has been saying is arriving via “Venus” SoC all along …

    Very very cool design … and has the potential for RayTracing amoungst other things!

    • Wyatt

      Huh? It’s just an AMD chip; probably a Piledriver. This thing is basically an ordinary PC with a Kinect embedded into it. The real question is how much of that RAM is reserved for the OS?

      • Wiggs

        I heard it was half…

      • Dan

        Piledriver at 1.6 GHz I strongly doubt that. My 8350 is a performer,sure, but that’s at 4.0GHz.

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  • http://www.ps3focus.com/archives/36 David

    http://www.ps3focus.com/archives/36

    So this website says the xbox 360 is capable of only 1 teraflop and the PS3 of 2 teraflops!!? Ok so how are the next gen consoles better than current gen? And who is doing the math for teraflops on next gen? Or or maybe teraflop perfomance doesn’t really matter, if you can access that power is what matters…Someone please explain..

    • Wyatt

      Maximum theoretical throughput of floating point numbers (basically, numbers with decimal points) is really only a useful figure if you’re a scientist with a large amount of data to crunch. If they were comparing GPU numbers, that’d be something very slightly more worthy of attention.

      As a parallel, “technically” the PS2 was a polygon-pushing monster, but did it look substantially better than the Xbox? No, not really. Same sort of deal.

      • ffffffff

        The raw processing power =/= performance argument hasn’t been relevant since the PS3, with no obscure hardware causing serious bottlenecks, and modern consoles using similar PC hardware, the gflop count does scale well with ingame performance.

        The WiiU, PS4 and Xbox720 are all using similar GPU’s from AMD, so the gflop counts are directly comparable.

        The biggest differences will be the dedicated helper hardware like the “move engines” and rumored secondary compute-only gpu which could separate things like AA or physics from the gpu.

        Also the PS2′s hardware was so obscure that it doesn’t even have a whole GPU, rendering is separated across several different chips running out of sync, which is why it’s so painfully hard to emulate on a PC even today (wait to emulate one chip’s job, stop, wait, start the other chip, etc, etc, print frame, start over).

        In summary, 720′s gpu is shit by today’s standards and the money is probably going into the bundled kinect or tablet.

    • ffffffff

      Ps2focus is lying, the 360′s Xeno Gpu is rated at 220-250gflops, ps3 is harder to put a number on since it’s not so programmable, it is somewhat more powerful yet flaws in the hardware give it serious disadvantages.

      This stuff is listed on wikipedia, which has the specifications and peak performance for nearly every gpu Nvidia and AMD has produced for any console.

      A modern cutting edge gpu from AMD or Nvidia peaks at 3-4tflops, a midrange at around 2tflops, the Xbox720 would be equivalent of a cheap low range GPU.

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  • http://www.hearselands.com/THU31/ THU31

    This does not look that optimistic. It is fine for today’s games, but what about the future? How will this cope in two-three years’ time? Exclusives will probably be acceptable, but multiplatforms will be outclassed by PC versions, considering that upper mainstream PCs are more powerful right now.

    I am not saying we should be getting a monster, but this will not be enough.

    • 1337GameDev

      I think not. Compare the hardware requirements for halo 2 pc (even though it is a salightly more detailed version than xbox), but the xbox handled it fine with slightly lower resolution. A console is way more efficient at games than a pc, so a console can be less powerful than a pc and play comparable, or even better quality games.

      I am only disappointed in the low-mid range gpu. I hope they have dual graphics cards or something better. 800mghz isn’t that much processing power for a gpu nowadays. My laptop that is 2 years old has a 768mghz gpu for its graphics card. I hope that the gpu is tougher or beefier in some way. Some graphics cards nowadays even have dual gpus (but run pretty hot and demand more power).

      Another concern is if microsoft gets the cooling right, they messed up on the 360, but i hope they will get it this right. They should have learned from thier first big problem.

      • Azrael

        “A console is way more efficient at games than a pc, so a console can be less powerful than a pc and play comparable, or even better quality games.”

        Your Argument Is Invalid.

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  • JCBossman

    Holy Smokes! I was expecting Microsoft to ‘Bring the Wood’ but didn’t expect the damn Forest. Those four Move Engines, Wow! I don’t want to confuse people with a lot of Technical Talk, so in layman’s terms, that basically means they are Quadra Pumping the Flop Capacitor out the Ying-Yang.

    • 1337GameDev

      I am a bit disappointed in the gpu. It sounds really impressive, but if compared to current graphics cards, it doesn’t seem powerful enough. My laptop has a 700mghz+ gpu, so i am unsure if this is enough power. They don’t state the amount of dedicated video ram however. They also don’t state compatibility for external system, like theatre systems, such as surround sound, external storage more than 32gb volumes, and support for more proprietary video formats. I want this console to play any video or music file i throw at it, not convert to crappy encoded windows formats.

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  • NoFace

    CPU with 8 cores but only clocking in at 1.6 gigs, can someone please explain to me why this makes sense?

    • Replying to NoFace

      1.6 gigs each.

    • mena

      100 MHz from now arent the same as 100 MHz from 10 years a go.

      dont think in just 1.6 x 8 CPUs.

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  • Daedria

    I’m not an expert but to my lay person eyes this appears to be underwhelming. With longer hardware cycles where is this thing going to be in five years? I’ll keep an open mind because performance specs between PC’s and consoles don’t depend on the specs alone, but I was hoping to see about twice the tflops.

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  • Alf

    As a game developer => i’m heavily disappointed. What’s that? Only 768 SP (versus >2k in current AMD graphics). I know of tessellation, it won’t help much. We still need raw polycount. Guy who wrote about 1,5 Wii U is right (don’t count RAM). For the next 7-8 years we tied to this piece of crap ( That’s sad.

    • ANGUS McBASTARD

      Can we please leave out the moronic ” I am a game developer/ film producer/ movie star/ Einstein love child/ superior elite race/ intergalactic space faring super brain from the planet Bullshitter 7″?

      Do you realise how much of an absolute twat you make yourself look when you chat this bollocks to a room full of tech-heads, gamers and enthusiasts who could give two flying ones about your Walter Mitty styled drivel.

      I mean for one, if you are going to spout the usual ‘Guys, I am a game developer and let me tell you why you should all pay attention to what I have to say’, like some spoiled child at his friends birthday party as he clap his hands and tries to become the centre of attention, the very least you could do to prove your superior intellect and knowledge is to have the decency to be able to spell.

      apologies to all for the untimely rant, but God and Christ Almighty do you know how many times a day

      I have to read this kind of drivel?

      Lord someone save me from a researchers job and shoot me please!

      okay, crisis over…carry on :P

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  • Bingo

    Cool.
    Can’t wait to install Linux on it.

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  • Tyler

    Durango Unchained.

    • bigone

      now that PS4 has been reveled with 8GB ram, and 8 CPU’s and a AMD CPU do you think this is low tech? Oh and by the way programmers are know for bad spelling. Not good spelling, they ‘we’ are not tech writers. After years of typing programming code what do you expect?

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  • http://www.computermods.co.uk Modder

    If these are the real specs its a poor move by microsoft, there is no way this xbox will last 7 years like the 360 has.

    • Foo

      Hopefully real UHDTV, ie 8K, will be out before then.

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  • Steve

    Without 4K output for graphics it is dead within 12 months!

    • Foo

      Because everyone is going to buy a $20,000 USD TV to go along with their $400 console?

      • Squanky

        Haha I know right? People won’t be scrambling to buy a tv that is about the same price as a decent car.

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  • Bob123

    The solution to all your fears of this weaksauce hardware is the Steambox.

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  • DeadmeatGA

    This incorrect(yes incorrect) rumors have several problems. 1. This box would not be backward compatible due to the lack of power to emulate. Currently the real Xbox Durango is 80% compatible with Xbox 360 games. In other word, the CPU is either a PowerPC or something that’s powerful enough to emulate it, think Haswell powerful. 2. The reported Xbox Durango chipset die is whopping 450 mm2 large, bigger than the biggest GPU that AMD has ever designed.

    • Alf

      You must be well informed. Actually – it seems to be fraud.

  • YouPeopleAreDumb

    You do realize that MS is most likely going to make the new xbox inter-connect with the rest of their products. That diagram is most likely fake and all of you retards are discussing it. You don’t need a 64-bit processor for Windows and you defiantly don’t need 8 cores to play games. Stop making yourselves look like stupid cunts and just wait for the real thing to hit the market. And to the idiot who said that it’ll be dead without 4K. Do you know how much a 4K TV is? It’s a marketing ploy that won’t last long not to mention there is no 4K content anywhere besides the movie theater. 1080P is going to be here for a longggggggggggg time.

    • http://twitter.com/sloppycarlson pancake panic

      hahahahahah ^^ ignorant..though the bit about 4k is spot on

  • JLGarza

    I’m curious, if this site were to be believed, would these stats change your mind?

    http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/146045-early-rumors-point-to-large-power-gap-between-ps4-and-xbox-720/2

    As I see this, having three systems on a chip in the design would make the system an entirely different sort of beast than even the best computers today. Let’s take for example, my pc is a quad core AMD Vision A8 I believe at 2.9ghz for each core with some sort of turbo core feature or something like that. My Graphics card is an AMD Radeon 6970 with DX11 support, 2 gigs of GDDR5 memory and all the normal bells and whistles. While this is not by any means a beast, when you consider the fact that there are now 8 core cpu’s out there as well as much newer graphics cards, this thing is able to make my games look freaking amazing, definitely spanking the PS3 and 360 I own without breaking a sweat, running games like Crysis 2 and The Witcher 2 on the absolute highest settings on my 1080p monitor whereas the same can not be said on the console side, as the PS3 pushes the vast majority of it’s games at only 720p, and the Xbox 360 does push 1080p but due to an up convert or something like that.

    The new system as it is explained from the other site, if it were released running in that type configuration should readily destroy the xbox and ps3. Sure, the clock frequency is slower in the majority of the chips, but if the chip is pushing two instructions per clock cycle, that is basically like a dual thread in that you are getting two times the operations per cycle. If the ghz are kept low, I feel that this would be an incredibly good decision on Microsoft’s part to make sure they do not repeat their infamous RRoD. Having the chips run cooler is smart. And when compared to my pc, I would love it if the thing were quiet. People often leave out the issue of noise. My pc is quiet while surfing the web, but once that graphics card starts to heat up, wow, the noise is ruff on the games. It really hurts the mood. If the idea behind those lower frequencies is to avoid this issue, perhaps it is a great idea. Also, I have heard that the cpu is much less important for video games because it isn’t working on visuals, mostly on the AI and non visual stuff. If this is the case, then what is wrong with having an eight core cpu which does two calculations per clock cycle? If the frequency is really 1.6ghz, would that not really mean it would compare to 12.8ghz? If each core of the 360 was around 3ghz, isn’t that basically 9ghz, but since it was dual thread, more like 18ghz? Of course, as I have understood things in the past, you can’t really compare frequencies that way, because a ten year old chip running at 3ghz would not compare to a brand new one running the same frequency due to the amount of items being processed at once per clock cycle. It may turn out that even with the lower frequencies that the new system is capable of doing far more work than the previous system. Of course, there’s also the little detail of just how many cpu’s are available, as the other site claims that it has three SoC’s, and each is supposed to have its own quad core cpu, which if true would make for a dizzying amount of data. Sure, I understood that one SoC would work for the OS itself, meaning the system will more than likely allow for video chatting with multiple friends on live since it provides an entire systems worth of power for the OS itself. I’m fairly certain they are going to allow multiple streams of video for this purpose. But of course that still leaves two SoC’s with higher clock speeds than was reported before. I guess it all depends on if the claims from the other site are trustworthy.

    Then there is the idea that there are two SoC dedicated to the games. As I see this, it can mean a few things. One, the system is built from the ground up with 3D in mind. Sure, 3D is suffering due to high cost of the televisions, but if it were to catch on when prices drop, it would be important to have the system able to drive dual images at once. Then there’s the chance that it has nothing to do with 3d but instead is about delivering true split screen gaming, like the WiiU, but without the need for the expensive controller. What better in a console than to be able to play a game like Halo on the one system, but to display the image to two screens? If you have a friend over, having a system that can let you play your game with a friend without having to drop frame rate, or perhaps without loosing the graphics a single player is used to would be incredible. Then of course, there is the third option, the whole thing could be to allow the system the power necessary to drive a game on a 4k screen with all the bells and whistles. If they use the two SoC’s in tandem, the thing could basically run like a dual graphics card setup but with the benefit of each system having a second cpu which may work sort of like an APU or a separate physics engine while the other does the required work.

    Mind you, I have no degree in this type field, I am basically just asking/guessing/hoping for this. What I am saying though is that without the whole picture, I think it is a bit premature to judge the system. I learned a lot recently when my Surface tablet arrived. I had so much stress waiting for the thing to arrive, because after ordering it, I heard nothing but bad news, “Oh the surface is junk, the thing is slow, it doesn’t work”, let me tell you, this was all bulls***. The surface is freaking amazing. If people would clear their mind for one minute and stop listening to die hard Apple fans, they would see that the system does everything it was supposed to and does it well. I traded up from my tegra 2 powered asus transformer to this tegra 3 and I absolutely love it. Without a doubt, I am able to do things that I simply could not on my android tablet. The main thing, without a doubt the single most important thing, I am able to do two things at once. Yes, you can say android lets you do ten things at once, but that us crap, the other things are dormant in the background waiting on it’s turn. On the Surface, I can be watching a YouTube video, while setting the second side app on a website, so when I look up info on items I couldn’t find on my first play through of any game like Darksiders 2, I am able to keep the side app on the website with the list of items to collect while watching a video on YouTube on aliens or whatever I want to watch. Not only that, if I click on another YouTube video, it will play it while I have the other on pause, so I can watch some short strategy guide type video without closing the first.

    My point is that you should avoid listening to other peoples as the end all source of information. Perhaps the system does not impress on paper, but once the thing releases and people begin to see what all those features mean in reality, it may be much nicer than it sounds on paper.

    • http://twitter.com/sloppycarlson pancake panic

      good god wall of text

  • Alf

    Oh, shit! Read all that stuff about Mars/Venus, that this diagram is just 1 SoC and so on. Can’t read all that info anymore cuz my alien brain starts boiling.

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  • http://720xbox.com.pl/pelna-specyfikacja-konsoli-w-ciagu-kilku-najblizszych-tygodni/ Centrum Xbox 720

    Well let’s hope it actually officially confirmed and will be even more eagerly expect the new console from Microsoft

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  • http://infoflavour.com/ zy31

    Any info about the controller upgrades????
    http://infoflavour.com/just-xbox-not-xbox-720/

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  • alll

    FAKE!

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  • Microsoft Programer

    it’s very vague and doubtful that it will include a blue ray player as Sony would be pissed of with Microsoft using their best tech. Sony have always protested that they would sew Microsoft is they ever even touched the blue ray program. Its more likely that it will have a HD DVD drive in the system from Philips. The program lay out is also wrong as the current XBOX 360 S has better programming than what is suggested. The possibility is there that some of the info may be write but most of it is undoubtedly wrong. Sorry to inform you but this is fake. I can confirm this as I work on the soft ware for the XBOX 360 S that is out at current.

    • http://twitter.com/shandy706 Sabre20000

      LOL, you have no clue what you are talking about. The usage of blu-ray has nothing to do with Sony. Anyone can use it that pays for it…Sony does NOT solely own blu-ray tech.

      So stupid.

    • Bucko

      Surely if you was a “Microsoft PROGRAMMER” you would have a decent enough education to be able to spell PROGRAMMER correctly, and to be able to spell Blu-ray correctly and SOFTWARE is one word not two, I’m not saying this info is correct or fake but I’m pretty sure the majority of your comment is FAKE, Microsoft don’t have a cat in hells chance if all of its PROGRAMMERS are as well educated as you.

    • AC

      Oh my god!! learn to spell and use proper grammar then people might believe you’re a Microsoft programmer…dumbass

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    Paahahaaha! STFU and GTFO! haha

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  • Michael Norris

    I do find it funny that all the MS fanboys that called Blu ray a waste will be using one after all.

    • http://twitter.com/JayD51 JayD

      Back then it added a lot $100+ to the console price. Now it is a lot cheaper so it is a no brainer.

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